So wether or not you "think" it's a post grunge song shouldn't be coming into play here. Per WP:V the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth-whether readers can check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true. Where does it say most commercially successful? Most post-grunge bands only managed one hit, except Matchbox Twenty and their most commercially successful song is Bent, not 3AM as is listed on the allmusic post-grunge list - so that theory isn't relevent. Y2kcrazyjoker4 ( talk) 23:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC) Like I said, the song more closely resembles pop rock: see the Sacramento Bee - Y2kcrazyjoker4 ( talk) 23:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC) I think a third party needs to be involved - the source is clearly a reliable source and your interpretation is certainly not accurate. You'd need a source much more concrete than that. Maybe Semisonic is a post-grunge band, but "Closing Time" ain't a post-grunge song. And if I'm interpreting that page correctly, it's showing the most commercially successful songs by artists that are labeled post-grunge. Yankees76 ( talk) 21:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC) A quiet/loud/quiet/loud dynamic can apply to any genre of music. "Top songs" has Closing Time, just after 3AM by Matchbox Twenty. Anyways, you wanted a source so here's 's "Post Grunge" page. In fact that description fits better than alternative rock ( modern rock is more accurate). Not post-grunge? You've heard the song right? The quiet-loud-quiet format alone should give you an indication that it's cleaned up radio friendly grunge. The question is, is this reference a reliable source? - Yankees76 ( talk) 20:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC) Allmusics "Top songs" has Closing Time, just after 3AM by Matchbox Twenty. Is Closing Time a post grunge song? 's "Post Grunge" page. JoeBrennan ( talk) 13:27, 1 August 2011 (UTC) Genre I put in a citation needed but I haven't changed the text since it may be accurate and just not sourced.
If none can be found, soften the language to something like "appear to be continuous shots". Cite a reference where the video maker states that the shots are continuous.
Some of the transitions on the left side could be edits.